Happens in any source game.
*bump into barrel*
*barrel retaliates*
*take 10hp of damage*

M1 = Punch, M2 = Pull, M3 = Push/throw.

I've played the ship map of TTT before too and from what I remember it's very different from the ZM map, the TTT one was way more open, at day while the ZM version is at night, and I think the layout was too different to be simply a different version of the same map, I may be wrong though since it's been a long time since I've played that ZM map, I'll try to play on roy_the_ship and see if that's it.

I've seen a ship map that's very good, don't remember what it's called, just that it was a cargo ship.

I guess most if not all of the scrapped stuff listed there is pure bullshit? Unsurprising, the models did look a little fishy.

Also, it's interesting to read about scrapped stuff:
http://zombiemaster.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_weapons
http://zombiemaster.wikia.com/wiki/Sniper_%28zombie_type%29
http://zombiemaster.wikia.com/wiki/Player_Models#Trivia:

Dafaq is dis?
http://zombiemaster.wikia.com/wiki/A_ZM_X-MAS

It's what mostly happens now anyways, except that from time to time a survivor is gonna get unlucky and the ZM lucky, it's not like the shambler is gonna be much worse off without it anyways, and would be much better off with the buffs I mentioned than with just the random instant attack, since most of the time the ZM is gonna be the unlucky one since the shambler is mostly gonna do the slow ass attack.

Because that's what it is, it's random chance, nothing else to it.

Expected response, but you know very well that is untrue, otherwise, if getting into a zombie's melee range was 100% avoidable 100% of the time, how would you expect the ZM to win? Though it is true that most of the time you can just run past them, it doesn't take a genius to do it either, since the only threat they possess is a luck based one (unless you're cornered or distracted with something else) which they ain't gonna do most of the time, and in comparison his slower attacks which ain't gonna hit you ever (unless, again, you're cornered or distracted with something else). Also the other zombies certainly don't have a better random attack with no tradeoffs, for example the banshee has two different attacks with tradeoffs, he can either do 3 individual slaps very quickly each for 9 damage, or one slower one with both hands that does 12 (not sure on these numbers, it's somewhere around that). The shambler just has the exact same attack that does 25, but an instant version, which honestly just feels like a glitch.

But, again, unless you get unlucky, the shambler ain't gonna be a threat, there is no challenge to gambling, deciding to avoid confrontation is no challenge either, that was what most of my post was about, removing a luck based attack in favor of buffing him in other areas, and also making so that he doesn't randomly change to a walking animation that makes him easy to headshot compared to his other one, and while he would get more predictable, he would also be consistently better than he is right now. And you ignored everything else I've said in that post to lecture me like I have a problem with shamblers being too powerful or something, which is simply preposterous.

Exact information > vague representation of the information

Yeah, shorter fire sounds good, don't know how I didn't think of that, the height of the molotov fire right now is quite exaggerated indeed.

Okay, that was a good one.

Does anyone else feel like shamblers could use a tune up? Right now the shambler's attack can either be one of a set of long ass animations that is easily avoidable, or it randomly does an instant slap that is unavoidable, so it's pretty much a gamble when a shambler gets close, I think all the attacks should take the same time so it is consistent, but they should be faster than the current slow ones, and there should be no random isntaslap.

And when a shambler is walking it will either walk in a limping animation that makes headshots a little troublesome since he shakes his head so much, or in a weird walk with short steps with their arms by their sides, in which his head almost doesn't move and makes headshotting him very very easy, that should also be changed, I don't know if new animations will be made for shambler but it would be good, or just make the limping animation the only one and get rid of the easy to headshot one.

I think not having these luck factors in the game would be an improvement, also, so that shamblers could be a little more of threat, maybe buff shamblers' walking speed a little bit and/or allow them to attack while walking?

Also, I think the immolator fire should be more distinguishable from the Molotov fire, maybe by having a different color, I don't know, just something so we can tell more easily if an area is covered by Molotov fire or immolator fire.

Huh, interesting, alright then.

Arma 2 is not real life, we can't just claim stuff is realistic just because it is in Arma 2, also, holding a specific weapon doesn't suddenly give someone super zoom vision either, it doesn't make any sense, if it was to simulate visual acuity it would maybe be a small zoom (much smaller than what we have now) that you could do any time (like the HL2 zoom function, with a separate keybind for it).

It feels like a stupid artificial restriction to me.

That sounds good to me, though I think the winchester reloading could be slightly faster and more responsive to a reload cancel attempt (pressing left click), shotties always stop reloading almost instantly so I can fire a round when needed, while the winchester needs to me to mash the left click a few times until it slowly decides to stop reloading, if I don't click enough it'll just keep reloading.

Don't know if you've noticed, but this forum isn't a hive mind, there's different people with different opinions here.

We could have some more realism without it being 100% realistic.

Really don't see why this is needed in the game at all. Bunnyhopping is about as stupid as RTD and whatnot, though bunnyhopping is a game glitch while RTD is just a shitty server plugin. And fixing a glitch is not the same as limiting every freedom a player has.

About the zombie collision, couldn't it be different from the player one? I was under the impression that the collision between zombies and players would stay the same and only the collision between players and other players would change.