Trouble in Terrorist Town - General discussion

[Bad King Urgrain]

There were some issues with servers since the gmod update, that caused a number of smaller updates to be released. It was a bit of a mess. I would guess that server hasn't been fully updated yet. It's definitely not a TTT thing.

That one line of error thing reminds me... Was the DNA scanner ever fixed? I went MIA for two weeks straight, so I missed a lot. I know sometimes it just refused to work, like it broke permanently(menu wouldn't open), and if you handed it to someone else they couldn't use it either. It just produced a single line of error. I could get the the line for you, unless it's already fixed, or this was intentional, like a percentile chance to break.

One other thing, someone told me the DNA scanner is only 95% accurate on purpose, or at least the old one anyways, and it could produce faulty results. Is that a ttt myth?

There were fixes made to the DNA scanner, and I haven't had any reports about it for a long time.

The accuracy thing is nonsense. Could be that the myth was created by players who used it wrongly (like scanning on the wrong sample, or assuming a traitor used a certain gun when he didn't) and assumed it was the scanner's fault.

In fact, I think you'll find there's nothing random in TTT's gameplay mechanisms, other than who becomes traitor/detective.

[Darkest_97]

BKU you probably already know this, but voice traitor chat doesnt work at all now, innocents can always here you. The locational chat is turned off if that matters.

And apparently the DNA scanner doesnt work at all now, dont know the details. Ill say something if i figure it out. I know theres some error but i lost it.
Edit: nvm, it does break occasionally during rounds though, dont know why.
Edit 2: Someone gave this error for it: weapons\weapon_ttt_wtester\shared.lua:641: wrong number of arguments to 'insert'

[C.Mong]

Yeah, i was just gonna come in here and post this. Pressing Shift to talk to traitors doesn't work. locational chat is turned off on our server too.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Allright. Jossi and I tested a lot of voice things, but I guess that slipped through.

I've fixed the traitor chat and that DNA scanner error. New build will be up soon.

By the way, never assume I know something if it hasn't been posted in the thread yet. It'd suck if some issue stayed around for ages because everyone thinks I know when I don't (or I've forgotten).

[JossiRossi]

Has anyone gotten the locational chat to function correctly? Yesterday on Alters' server the fading names worked, but the locational chat did not. Not sure why but it simply wasn't working as intended.

[C.Mong]

It worked on our server yesterday, but it seemed really odd.
There was an issue where the voice of someone was louder in the center of a group of people but he wasn't even in the area at all, for some reason we could all hear him as if he was with us, I don't think he could hear us.
That said for some reason I'm not much a fan of it, it seems to encourage everyone to travel in a group and makes the game extremely difficult for the traitors. It also seems to be implemented kind of oddly, even when you're fairly close people seem quiet. And even though it's more "realistic" I guess I'm just way to used to being able to hear everyone from anywhere.

[Bad King Urgrain]

It worked on our server yesterday, but it seemed really odd.
There was an issue where the voice of someone was louder in the center of a group of people but he wasn't even in the area at all, for some reason we could all hear him as if he was with us, I don't think he could hear us.

This seems like the traitor chat issue.

Unless there's a gmod bug, there's no other way it could not be locational for one innocent and work for everyone else.

It also seems to be implemented kind of oddly, even when you're fairly close people seem quiet. And even though it's more "realistic" I guess I'm just way to used to being able to hear everyone from anywhere.

This is a gmod thing, there is absolutely nothing I can tweak about it. I agree that it changes the game, not sure if it's for the better because I haven't had a chance to play. I do hope gmod adds some way of modifying the volume/range relation.

[C.Mong]

Ah yeah, I didn't put those two together. It probably was traitor chat. That makes sense.

[Bad King Urgrain]

There's a little TTT article at PC Gamer.

[CrazyChicken]

There's a little TTT article at PC Gamer.

Nice, hard to forget how popular TTT has become :V

[Ajunk]

How do you look innocent in Gmod? You don’t look at people too much, you holster your gun

Oh god lol.

Deceitful deathmatch? Brilliant.

Sigh.

[SandersonJ]

Probably one of the most original and well-scripted gamemodes out there, basically; awesome.

[Killroy]

Yeah, as long as the other Traitor isn’t using the replacement weapon to take the targets down.

Ehwot.

[Joest]

I expect better than this from PC gamer.

[eeny]

Well, its free publicity for the gamemode, which once people learn the basics can be nothing but good.

[Soduka]

Bad King, is there anything you can do or add so that we can instantly know whether a server is modified or not?

[Bad King Urgrain]

First and foremost: anything I could do, could also be modded out quite easily.

The presence of custom weapons (or other entities) can be detected quite easily. Other modifications, not so much. Of course custom weapons are probably the most common.

Ideally, players could see information like this in the server browser. Valve's tagging system would be ideal, but I don't know if gmod will ever get that. I can theoretically make the server list say something like "Trouble in Terrorist Town (customized)" in the "game" column instead for servers with custom stuff. That's only been possible since the OB update so I haven't had long to think about it yet. It's a little ugly compared to the tag approach.

Is that the kind of thing you mean with "instantly know"?

[Soduka]

First and foremost: anything I could do, could also be modded out quite easily.

The presence of custom weapons (or other entities) can be detected quite easily. Other modifications, not so much. Of course custom weapons are probably the most common.

Ideally, players could see information like this in the server browser. Valve's tagging system would be ideal, but I don't know if gmod will ever get that. I can theoretically make the server list say something like "Trouble in Terrorist Town (customized)" in the "game" column instead for servers with custom stuff. That's only been possible since the OB update so I haven't had long to think about it yet. It's a little ugly compared to the tag approach.

Is that the kind of thing you mean with "instantly know"?

If it's really that stupid looking then I wouldn't do it. I just feel it would be very helpful to know from the browser what server is modified and what isn't.

This is especially important considering the game mode will be IN Gmod at some point in the future and with all the publicity TTT gets for being a mod, new players may not understand that the unbalanced crap floating around is not really TTT.

[Erscheinung]

Latest Gmod update appears to have broken TTT. Names, unid'd/id'd bodies names, etc don't show up at all. One of the files updates was cookies.lua, if it matters.

[Rigel Betelguise]

Latest Gmod update appears to have broken TTT. Names, unid'd/id'd bodies names, etc don't show up at all. One of the files updates was cookies.lua, if it matters.

I second this.  It seems to be the only thing that broke that we've found so far.  So we just have a bunch of rdm's and confused people:-P